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Holy cow. How ridiculous was John Simon's question? Not ridiculous because of its position (I didn't like Zimmerman's "Lucia" and also had trouble digesting some of Doyle's "Grimes,"), but because was really such a cynical non-question.; a question without detail and without even the sincere hope of seeking an answer. It was meant to shock, and it did, but wound up making Simon look foolish and Zimmerman like a saint. For someone lauded as being in such high command of language, he seemed rather to give up on the entire idea of communication for the sake of insult.

Bruce Hodges

I agree, that was a completely gratuitous remark, and although I didn't see "Lucia," I would hardly characterize Doyle's "Peter Grimes" as an "egregious mistake." Final scene aside (apparently now changed), I think much of Doyle's conceit is pretty brilliant, helped by set designer Scott Pask. At the moment I'm seeing the opera at least three more times (including the movie theater live broadcast), and very much looking forward to all of them.

Not Bruce Hodges

So you think Doyle's concept is "pretty brilliant?" Explain, please, for those of us who think it's the most egregious offense ever perpetrated on one of the greatest operas ever written.

JSU

That Fleming pic is actually the least flattering of the bunch. Most striking is Giordani on horseback, but I suppose it would be sort of silly to make him the face of the Met (though is *is* in everything now).

Marc Geelhoed

John Simon: The charm will never grow old.

Steve Smith

Thanks for your comments, everyone. Bruce, for better or for worse I'm actually pretty sorry now that I won't be able to see Doyle's original closing scene, so I can't come to my own conclusions. (Maury D'Annato also mentioned this change in a good post on his blog, as did Martin Bernheimer in yesterday's Financial Times review of City Opera's King Arthur.)

I appreciate your sticking your neck out to express your appreciation of a production that's taking a lot of flak. So Steven G., next time you want to take a poke at a fellow commenter on this blog -- which you are of course welcome to do; we're all here to discuss things -- please be so courteous as to sign your real name to it.

Bruce Hodges

Thanks, Steve. Here is my write-up for MusicWeb. I wish I'd had just a little more editing time to tighten up a few redundant bits, but I wanted to get the article up quickly, to counter the mostly negative comments.

After tonight's viewing, tomorrow I'll post the review on my blog, along with some comments on the changes in the final scene.

And yes, I stand by my original feeling that it's one of the best things I've seen at the Met this season. Doyle's concept is perhaps extreme, but the opera--a candidate for "greatest of the 20th century"--is strong enough to take it.

Marc Geelhoed

After reading through these comments, I'm really looking forward to the HD broadcast and drawing some conclusions of my own.

Henry Holland

I miss Martin Bernheimer in the Los Angeles Times so. damn. much.

"The State Theater, capacity 2,775, is too big for such fragile fluff, razzle-dazzle notwithstanding. The soloists chirp and rant prettily. The dancers do their gutsy-goofy thing. Jane Glover defends Baroque honour nobly in the pit. Nothing matters much".

*Sigh*

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